secretary clinton offering a vigorous defense of susan rice, the context obviously being the attacks on benghazi and libya and the republican calls for more information. is there anything to be read from the fact that we have seen both president obama and secretary of state clinton go out of their way in a way to defend susan rice? is there anything we should tea leave read from that fact? >> well, chris, i think the president and secretary of state were right to defend per. these allegations are completely unfounded. they're unfair to her. she is a very talented, very effective, committed public servant. you know you know how those sunday show work when administration officials of either party go on, they're following talking points that the republican or democratic administration, whichever party's in power, has constructed and that's what susan did that morning. if any other administration official had been on the air that morning they would have said essentially more or less the same thing. i don't think the attacks are fair and she deserves a chance to be considered for any office that the